Is Your Dentist Ignoring Signs of Heart Attack Risk?

Is Your Dentist Ignoring Signs of Heart Attack Risk?


(This conference will now be recorded.) So
I was doing an update with my friend the – the dentist and founder of the Wellness
Dentistry Network, Doug Thompson. He’s been on the – on the channel several times.
He reminded me that February is heart health month. It – I didn’t get it because
for me every – every month is heart health month. I’m just, sometimes way too deep
into it. Another thing he mentioned though and he’ll cover that a little bit
later in this discussion is the – the issue about oral pathogens. We’ve all
known and we’ve all been following the – the evidence indicating that bacteria in
the mouth can cause significant cause of cardiovascular inflammation. There’s some
information coming out from a periodontist researcher. I think
somewhere in California, juergen slots who’s underlining the
importance of some of the oral pathogens that your doctor, your dentist may not
pick up because their viral. Oral herpes being one of the more important ones. I
actually got so interested in it. I – I did a separate video on herpes and
cardiovascular inflammation but I’m getting ahead of us Doug, why don’t you
take us away? Yeah thanks for that. You know one of the things I had to do is
try to figure out how to help our WGN members let their patients know that
we’re interested in heart disease and that we think it matters so we created
these placards that we put up in the office and the one you see on the left
your screen is called “Health Measurables That Matter- Cardiovascular Health: Heart Disease “.
We’re basically letting people know that you know we want them to know if they
have a history of heart disease if they’ve ever been tested for any kind of
blockage or plaque in their vessels and then that you can help people discover
the difference between their vascular age and their chronological age and we
want to know that cell for some people; and then we want to know some basic
lipid numbers and some of the basic numbers. So that’s a – that’s a really easy
easy awareness piece but interestingly the –
the relationship between heart disease and oral health is really these bacteria.
And so as I look at a bacterial test that comes from one of the companies
that we use, the testing companies not only measure for the concentration and
level of certain bacteria but it reminds us that these bacteria not only affect
cardiovascular disease but they affect cancer, they affect muscle and joint
health dementia and brain health metabolic health and and pregnant women
as well, but more than just bacteria, I mean you and I were discussing it’s just
now there’s new piece about viruses; and we have viruses to consider too. And so
our – our treatment modalities are getting to be more expanded not only to be
antimicrobial but we want to make sure they’re anti-viral and anti-fungal as
well; and so we also know in the Ingar Olsen wrote a really nice paper about
oral infections and can they be a risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease. So we – you
know, you – you’ve helped me learn that you know if you’re concerned about vascular
disease, you – you know that the vessels feed your brain too. So it’s really a big
deal and so this and in his paper he talks about viruses too being part of the
vascular degradation process in the brain, in the end of Alzheimer’s. So
there’s multiple reasons why people have Alzheimer’s and heart disease and these
diseases and – and the two images on the left are Dale Bresson’s book where he
says, “You know there’s 36 issues. Yeah – I mean there’s hormones, there’s lifestyle
factors, there’s viruses, there’s you know these other things and – and when we get
to training – yeah 36 holes in the room and then when
we get trained by Dr. Bale and Dr. Doneen which you saw the beat, the heart attack
gene on the first slide. This is a poster from their book that talks about root
causes and it’s interesting because they have these big fat roots and these
little skinny roots on the tree trunk of inflammation that basically provides the
fruit of atherosclerosis and they use cartoon imagery to talk about this
process and I found it fascinating that after you
and I talked a lot we looked at these different diseases that if you just take
the Dale Bredesen holes in the roof concept and you flip the bail donate
poster upside down, it’s the exact same thing. So – so what are expect us (and it’s
all arterial love and cardiovascular inflammation – Dr. Brewer) and one of those big fat
roots is insulin resistance and you know metabolic issues so I really appreciate
you know you doing that for me. So what you helped me do for it is we put
together an inflammatory panel that even dentists can – can take on their patients
to help discover if they have these issues. Now, I want to be clear dentists
can’t treat this but we need you to do that, that’s why we’re trying to create
this collaborative union, that’s why we’re speaking so much on these topics.
So it’s really nice and so we do have a wellness dentistry not lab panel. So I
want to just thank you Ford for bringing to the light the idea that
there’s multiple components to the vascular disease process and we need to
make our patients aware. You’re one of our partners in health in our library so
we have – you have mechanisms for patients and people that can reach out to you and
I know through your youtube channel people, we’d love them to reach out and
find a wellness dentistry network member dentist. They can go to
WellnessDentistryNetwork.com and they can look in the directory and we would hope and
what we’re trying to do is get these dentists like you’re trying to help
physicians. I get these dentists to be aware of these things and, and really
help our patients in a number of ways beyond just the teeth. Thank you very
much Doug! I’d like to to comment on one of the things that you said. You said, you
know of course we, the dentist, can’t treat cardiovascular inflammation and I
know you’ve been beat about the head, you’ve been pummeled on that issue
because you’ve been a strong voice and not only a voice, you have been a major
in actor, a major facilitator for helping dentists get involved in this area. I
know you’ve gotten criticism from the doctor side saying, what are Dennis going to
do with this? Ah… you know I’m a doc so I can be a little bit more verbal about my
issues than I’m also a public health doc too. I’ve noticed in – it this is a
giant public health issue. There’s nobody nothing that’s killing more people than
cardiovascular inflammation. There’s nothing disabling more people than
strokes and cardiovascular inflammation. We use – we use totally untrained people.
We use health coaches. We use health coaches are trained. We use trainers to
look for things like blood pressure. So it’s like, the focus on saying Dennis
shouldn’t be doing this, admittedly as you can see I’m starting a rant on this
issue. I got to make one other point about it. Even the statement that you
can’t treat it, you have to refer it. I understand that I’ve heard that many
times and I agree with the perspective on it but I also have another
perspective. You know if we’re talking about oral infections, oral pathogens,
periodontitis being major causes of cardiovascular inflammation, the heck of
it that you guys can’t treat it, you’re very much involved in the treatment of
it. So – you know Ford that’s true. We really are and really what my big message to
dentists is or what I’m trying to get dentists to how to do is realize that
what we learned in school years ago about how to treat this disease really
isn’t enough, and many of us don’t detect it early enough and many of us just
don’t treat it early enough and so – so from that aspect you are absolutely
correct. We are helping treat it. You know, we’re collaborating; and you know I
didn’t want to go here and I don’t want to make this – this little time together
longer than necessary but Ford this is a simple little thing right here. Look at
this on the screen. I look at a panorex. This is a regular film that I take in my
office all the time and I spot something on the panorex that doesn’t look right and
I send this guy over for crowd and scanning. We find out I got a 28-year old
with the arteries of a 51-year old. He already has a pretty decent plaque
buildup. So that’s the kind of thing I think dentists could do but you can’t
hurt you know I’m gonna back – back up to where we were but you can’t do that if
we don’t have, if we don’t have that kind of knowledge. So I’m trying to get
dentists to learn how I manage periodontal disease and then I’m loving
the time we get to spend together. We can help chair with dentist what these other,
you know, things mean. So it’s just – it’s just been a fantastic journey. I’m going
to continue to be a voice for because the research in the literature
supporting us more than ever. Thank you for what you do Doug and thank you for
your time on your video – on the video today. Thanks Ford, talk to you soon! Okay
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