Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancer, Thyroid – Solution – Joel Fuhrman

Heart Disease, Diabetes, Cancer, Thyroid – Solution – Joel Fuhrman


Joel: I remember when my daughter, Kara, was
four years old. We when to a health club because we we’re
exercising. She came out of the class she was in and she
called it boo-boo camp. It was a children’s boot camp or something
and she called it boo-boo camp. She came out to me and said, “Daddy, don’t
these parents love their children?” And I said, “What do you mean don�t they
love their children? Of course they do.” And she said, “Well, they’re eating junk. They’re eating pretzels and chips and candy. That’s not good for your health.” And she’s a four-year-old. “It’s going to hurt them.” And I said, “Yes, Kara, but they don�t know
what we know and they don�t know that what you eat makes your body and you’re made out
of the foods you eat. We know that.” And she goes, “How could they be so stupid? How could they not know the foods you eat
make your body? When you eat junk food you’re going to have
an unhealthy body. How could they not know this?” She’s a four-year-old. She was able to grasp it at the age of four
years old. And I said, “Kara, if you work up in the morning
and everybody was smoking cigarettes, the kids at the bus stop, the parents in the swing
set, everybody waiving goodbye at you, you would think it’s just normal to smoke cigarettes.” In our society so many people are eating unhealthy
foods and ruining their health and paying a price for it. Because everybody does it they think it’s
okay or they think it’s normal. They don’t really see what you see that how
really abnormal this is. It’s really terribly abnormal and sad. We have a whole population of food addicts. And then the kids started on this junk food
when they’re young and then you’re going to pull away the cocaine later on. So we have to change the way society views
food is the point. Nick: You have several incredible books and
you’re debunking myths on an ongoing basis, on television, in articles and in personal
appearances. So for you I feel the intensity and the excitement
but the frustration. So what message do you want the audience to
know? Where do they start? You mentioned as kids. Clean up the cupboard? Where do they start? And then take me through when they’re maybe
as an adult and then as a senior. Give me the best possible scenario to get
them on the healthiest nutritarian. Joel: Nutritarian diet. A nutritarian diet is a diet based on high-nutrient
plant foods, high-nutrient foods. It has a high nutrient but calorie density. Comprehensive micronutrient adequacy means
that every plug and every hole is filled [0:02:20] [Indiscernible] and anything, and it’s hormonally
favorable. So we can design a diet style in today’s world
to extend you in lifespan, to prevent chronic diseases, to have a healthier population and
to make life more fun. So my response is that eating healthy is fun,
it tastes great, you can make healthy food taste better than unhealthy food. It’s called a no-brainer. Why not have a population without heart attacks,
without strokes, without dementia, without breast cancer, colon cancer, prostate cancer? Why not have the healthiest population? Why not give people the ability to disease-proof
their body and living a long healthy life and have fun in their life and have more fun
in their food, eating healthy food? Because you enjoy it more when you know it’s
good for you too. So that’s right. I know we have a population that is addicted
to unhealthy foods, that are committing suicide with knives and forks. But I want to make available the opportunity
so people who want a better life, a healthier life, a happier life knows what to do. My expectation isn’t that all of society is
going to change. But my expectation is that you should know
about this to have the choice because people don�t even know they have a choice because
they’re misinformed, miseducated, their doctor doesn’t support it, their society doesn’t
support it, their government doesn’t support it, and they’re left with no choice but to
have medical tragedies before them. And I’m saying there’s a choice. It doesn’t have to happen to you. And I’m not under the opinion that I have
to go out there and change all of America but I want people to know they have a choice. So if they want to be healthy and want to
take advantage of this opportunity, which is a blessing, they can. Nick: Now, I know you went into medical school
with the idea of taking what you learned about nutrition and increasing that knowledge base
about nutrition. So instead of coming from a traditional medical
approach where you get little or no education about nutrition you had a different mindset. Tell me a little bit about that. Joel: Well, I recognize that nutritional excellence
is the future of healthcare, it’s the most powerful opportunity or intervention because
we would get people well again. Drug is really a proven failure. They don�t significantly extend human lifespan. They don’t really wipe out these diseases. Even with the drugs advancements we still
have about 40% of that are having heart attack and strokes and about 30% dying of cancer. We’re not of the same ages. We’re not radically extending human life with
all our interventions. Nutrition has that opportunity to add 10,
15, 20 years to people’s lives to give them a better, healthy life expectancy, to give
them a better quality of life. [0:05:00] I knew at a young age studying nutrition at
home — because my father was sick. I brought a lot of books into the house and
I was using nutrition for better performance in my athletic career. So I recognize that I would get a tremendous
amount of personal satisfaction from being able to be a physician that specializes in
nutrition. And then when I went to medical school I remember
when I was describing these discussions with medical students, professors, physicians,
and they’d always give you the, “Yes, we know that’s right but” — and it would be, “Yes,
we know that’s right but you’re not going to get enough people to do that and people
don�t listen to it. Everybody just wants the drug anyway.” I said, “Yes, but those aren�t reasons. You don�t give people what they want because
they’re not informed. That’s not informed consent.” Our population is misinformed and miseducated. Many more people would choose to take care
of their health if they knew the benefits that could accrue to them. So I said, “Regardless of how many people
would do this or not it doesn’t matter. We still have to give people the opportunity
to do what’s right for their life.” Nick: Another myth you debunked was about
the use of cruciferous vegetables. In normal intake amounts it was believed that
it would suppress thyroid function. Please address that because you wrote a really
good article on your website. What is the website again? Joel: DrFuhrman.com is my website. Nick: Tell me about that, how you came across
that information or was it through reviewing the literature. Thyroid problems are common. Millions of people have thyroid issues around
the world. Joel: Right. Nick: So the cruciferous vegetables, what
was the — Joel: The question is somewhat a little distorted
because there are no scientific studies that demonstrate that cruciferous vegetables are
bad to the thyroid. So you’re asking me to comment on internet
myths and lay people’s fears that are based on internet health writers who don�t know
what they’re talking about and who make claims that are not supported. So what I’m saying to you is that it was a
ridiculous concept to begin with. There are not studies to support that. As a matter of fact when we look at the studies
the studies show that eating cruciferous vegetables prevents against thyroid dysfunction, thyroid
tumors, thyroid nodules and thyroid cancers. Now, we know that there are certain elements
in food that are goiter gene, that can block thyroid activity by the thyroid gland but
their effects are so slight that you’d have to eat a diet almost nothing but that food
to manifest that effect and you’d have to also be iodine deficient at the same time. So the idea that a person can become thyroid
deficient by eating cruciferous vegetables was never born out in humans. You’d have to get a thyroid deficient rat
and overfeed them liquid and a lot of cruciferous vegetables. And nobody is recommending that you eat a
diet of only one food. You eat a diet with a lot of different foods
in it. So of course I’m saying that the reassurance
is that cruciferous vegetables is some of the healthiest foods in the planet, they prevent
cancer and they’re not going to interfere with your thyroid function. Nick: And I like your work about looking at
mushrooms and how potent they are in building up the immune system because the battle against
cancer is being lost right now. So what can our viewers do to build up their
immune system, to fortify? And I know you have a new book coming out. So tell me a little bit about the immune system,
cancer and your new book. Joel: Well, the book I have that just came
out is called The End of Dieting. But the book I have that was written two years
ago called Super Immunity, that’s the book that talks about building the immune system
and about the GBOMBS which is the cruciferous vegetables and the mushrooms. So the GBOMBS, G-B-O-M-B-S, stand for greens,
beans, onions, mushrooms, berries and seeds, greens, beans, onions, mushrooms, berries
and seeds, six foods that have the effect individually and collectively to build super
immunity, to build a strong immune system. And we’re saying here that with the regular
use of these foods we could win the war with cancer in America, and that means we could
drop cancer rates from where they are — which is very high in this country — down by at
least 90%. I’m suggesting it’s possible. And that’s not a ridiculous or astronomical
claim because there are population around the world today that have less than 1/10 the
cancer we have in America. It’s certainly achievable if we can arm our
population with the proper information. Nick: I know in Okinawa they like purple sweet
potatoes and oranges and fresh food, and they rarely eat fish, only a couple of times a
month. So a plant-based diet does supply all the
protein, nutrients. And they’re the longest-lived culture in the
world, aren�t they? Joel: I don�t think so. If you look at certain a page in Okinawan
history we have good data on how long they lived. And if we look at the Seventh Day Adventist
in Loma Linda, California we have also good data on them. [0:10:00] And if you take the group of Seventh Day Adventist
that are adherent to the principles they want to — in other words they’re not smoking,
they’re exercising, not drinking alcohol, they’re eating diet that is very high in plant
foods, very low in [0:10:14] [Indiscernible], that group of the people who are adherent
in Seventh Day Adventist, adherent to their dietary principles, live longer as a whole
than the Okinawans do. Not the Seventh Day Adventist as a whole because
not all of them follow all the recommendations but those that follow those recommendations
I think their longevity potential was 13 years longer than the average Caucasian white American. They live I think 7.3 years longer as a whole
but if you look at the quartile that was following their recommendations — and that quartile
was longer lived than the Okinawans as a whole as well. But everything’s a bell shape curve. And I’m not recommending any of those two
things. I’m not going to recommend any one style to
live longer. I’m recommending what are the features of
a diet that made people live longer in the Okinawa. Everything they did [0:11:01] [Indiscernible]
diet. They did a lot of good things. They did some bad things. The Seventh Day Adventist, what are they doing
right? Let’s pull out from the longest lived people
around the world. What are the things in common and what are
those features that are responsible for the enhanced longevity? And we could define a new diet style which
I call a nutritarian diet which should be able to far exceed the benefits even of an
Okinawan diet or Seventh Day Adventist guideline diet. You follow me? Nick: Brilliant.